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This has got me really frightened
PostPosted: Mon Aug 03, 2009 4:19 pm Reply with quote
MrsL
 
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http://www.oilvoice.com/n/Not_Eno...Pipeline_Warns_IEA/c5df7f7bc.aspx

Tehre is precious little being done towards addressing these problems on a literally domestic scale by most people - they're still using their bloody electric breadmakers, tumble dryers, driving their cars all over the place, jetting off to Greece on holiday (you know who you are Evil or Very Mad and I know you read in here............................. ), mowing their lawns with petrol guzzling polluting mosnters, leaving things on standby, lights blazing....................
I truly despair at the head in the  sand attitude of people, and I am scared of the future when the power is no longer there at the flick of the switch and what I see as inevitable breakdown of society. It will happen.......................


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 04, 2009 8:35 am Reply with quote
Sandybeth
 
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Very scary stuff. We will continue with our 2 year plan of learning skills, before we move to a more self sufficient home. At least we are making plans. As you said, so many people have their heads in the sand and worst still, some people don't even know that there is a problem.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 04, 2009 10:56 pm Reply with quote
Gribbie
 
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The next few years will be "interesting" that's for sure!
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 19, 2009 7:24 am Reply with quote
nita
 
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very scary stuff indeed .........

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 07, 2009 9:06 am Reply with quote
LAIC
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I found a great book on the self-sufficient home, published in 1980 I think. Now - that's nearly 30 years ago, but to me, we are no further down the self-sufficient/reliant road at all
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 07, 2009 4:18 pm Reply with quote
calendula
 
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In 1978 just as I was leaving school we had an amazing teacher take over one of our classes and he was the first person I remember telling us about climate change that would lead to very wet summers and food would become more expensive. He also said we would have to get used to a very different life because no-one would be in full time employment. We would have to be more self-reliant and would have to find things to do to fill spare time!

He started an allotment group at school with veg. plots, greenhouses, chickens and bee’s. He wasn’t at the school for very long and I don’t think anything was continued after he left.

About that time I remember quite a few green programs on tv encouraging recycling, energy and water conservation. By the early 80’s my kids were big fans of Captain Planet and later FernGully. And The Man who Planted Tree’s (a great video if you get chance to see it)
So yes there’s been concerns from the 1980’s but it doesn’t seem like anyone is taking notice. And they’re probably not going to notice until it’s far too late. The smallest thing to break down first will be catastrophic because we are all so unprepared.

Important items on the news about oil, energy, climate change are whizzed through quickly and then straight on to the latest invention of power guzzling must have.

A couple of years ago there was a petrol shortage. It was the turning point for me as I queued for petrol (my mum had badly broken her leg and I was having to take her to hospital regularly.) Men in front of me got out their cars and were fighting over who was next in the queue, scary. In the shops around here there were fights as bread, toilet rolls and cat food disappeared off the shelves in minutes. I came home and said to Dh I’m never going out there when stuff like that happens again. At least not until things calm down.

A little while after that we had a power cut. We were the only ones on a close of 12 houses that had candles. I had to go around the street and hand them out to people that were fumbling around in their houses with only the lights from their mobile phones. We were the only house to have a working land line phone too.
I have big concerns for the stupidly small houses that are being built around here with the tiniest concrete spaces outside they call a garden/patio.

I think all we can do at the moment is prepare ourselves and our families.

Sue
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 25, 2009 9:26 pm Reply with quote
nita
 
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i think it helped me growing up in the 70's when we had powercuts on a regular basis, also had water stand pipes/ tanks where we had to go and collect our water daily.  this taught me a lot .  ive always been prepared for powercuts with candles, lanterns, wind up torches now, and recently purchased a wind up torch lantern Smile    with water i can do a complete strip wash with one bowl.  learnt this when i lived on a coach on a quay in kings lynn.  how to be sparing with everything.

big thing still not dealt with is gas appliance for cooking, have gas oven but really could do with a bottled gas appliance.

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 26, 2009 7:45 am Reply with quote
Leanne
 
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another child in the 70's here and i too remember the shortages and the cuts. i am trying to safeguard my family with my preps, I'd rather prep and never need it, than not do anything and suffer the consequences ITSHTF. its no different to taking out an insurance policy, we all do that but most of us never claim, but are calmed by the thought we are protected IF we ever need it.   So many people have their heads buried in the sand, and those of us who do prepare may be mocked for it now, but will have the last laugh i think...

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 8:33 am Reply with quote
LAIC
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I remember the 70 s too, but our family was always well prepared, it was just the way we lived from day to day - wells tocked alrders, fuel sorted, fire wood, hens, veg garden, made clothes, etc. Certainly stood me in good stead. Living in a tiny village, we were susceptible to getting snow bound in most winters, so just ahd to stay at home, sometimes with power cuts. I don;t remember it as emergencies to get worried/panicked about, it's just what happened. I think the medai frenzy bit  causes a lot fo trouble and panic, whereas if the Govt took the bull by the horns and kept us infomred with good USEFUL information, the country as a whole would be better prepared. As and island nation, we should know this, but............... Rolling Eyes


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